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                          By: An Angry 2TUFF



   Okay lamers or should I say lamer!  Obviously this textfile was 

   written by a totally pathetic dude with no sense or knowledge on

   the subject of consoles and the computer industry.



   I find it really a waste of time making this textfile, wasteing my

   precious time, when EVERYONE knows the textfile was aload of bollox.

   But I have to do this to control my anger at how such a lamer thinks

   he can rag on me and on a great machine.

   

   ##



   I have had lots of mail asking me questions on the Sega Saturn, and

   asking me my thoughts and views.  I do not lie and tell only the 

   truth and what I see for the future of both these consoles.



   AT(P)  "THE SHITURNS 2D CAPABILITIES ARE LESSER THAN PS-X"



   2Tuff  "Get real idiots, everyone knows the Saturn is absolutely

           far greater than the Playstation for 2D handling and 

           what great effects can be made."



   AT(P)  "THE PLAYSTATION HAS NO PROBLEMS WITH SPRITE HANDLING ETC"



   2Tuff  "Explain why then Seibu, creators of Raiden have had so 

           much trouble reproducing their original shoot 'em up

           on the machine then?  The Playstation's sprite handling

           etc is far inferior to a very old at least 1990 arcade

           machine/board.  This obviously shows how crap the PS-X

           is, when it still has not surpassed a crappy old PCB.



           The Playstation has trouble with hardware scrolling etc.

           Well far more trouble than the Sega Saturn anyway."



   AT(P)  "THE PLAYSTATIONS SOUND IF SUPERIOR TO THE SATURNS"



   2Tuff  "Hahahaha yeah rite dudes, make yourselves look even more

           silly.  The Saturn's sound is great, as many 

           developers will tell you, it totally surpasses the Sony

           Playstations chipset.  Come on do you ever think anything

           Sony make can compare to Yamaha in sound?  NOT!"



   AT(P)  "CLOCKWORK KNIGHT IS SAD CAUSE IT TAKE 40MINS TO CLOCK"

          "AND 84 POUNDS TO BUY!"



   2Tuff  "Actually Colin you got it wrong if you remember I told you

           I paid 81.49 not 84, or is this one of your totally lame

           cover ups? haha lamer.

           Also Clockwork Knight may be expensive, and short.  But

           CK contains some of the most incredible graphics, yet

           seen in your home, especially in a game like a platform.

           Also the sound is incredible and 97% is made by the Yamaha

           chipset.  Unlike most Playstation titles people use the

           Saturns Yamaha sound chipset.

           Also I may have clocked this 6 times now but I keep on 

           playing this and showing my friends (whose jaws drop).

           Tell me how many times you would want to play Ultimate

           Parodius 1 or 2???  YES not very long its CRAP!!!  Also

           hows about playing that Final Fight rip off beat 'em up?

           NOTTTTTTT its crap its so slow to move I nearly took my

           PS-X back to the shop and demanded my money back."

           Saturn has 2 great games out of 3 possible good titles:-

           1. VIRTUA FIGHTER (Sega)

           2. CLOCKWORK KNIGHT (Sega)

           What does the PS-X have??  Yes 1 great game out of 3

           possible good titles:-

           1. RIDGE RACER (Namco).  Which may I say, its incredibly

           lame compared to coin-op, and even slow's down massively

           in parts occasionally, never mind the speckally graphics

           and lack of color/detail.  Also using sound off the CD?

           How lame.



   AT(P)  "RIDGE RACER IS THE GREATEST CAR SIM"



   2Tuff  "I don't think so lamer, its was good but then Daytona USA

           came out and kaned it to the floor.  People started to

           realise how limited the game really was when all that

           came about.  Also you are forgeting Ace Drivin from Namco.

           This shows you don't know whats happened or happening

           in the industry.  Ace Drivin is much better than Ridge

           Racer and Daytona with its ghouraud shading etc.  But

           guess what?  Haha need I say Sega's new Sega Rally is

           better."



   AT(P)  "SEGA SUX AND ARE LAMEEEEEEEEE"



   2Tuff  "If Sega are sux then why do they dominate every area they

           invest in?  How come they still support there older machines?

           How come they've been around for a long time?



           Come on bloodclat, you know shit.  Sega products sell more

           than any other.  Look at the Genesis of which you slagged.

           The Genesis has sold more in USA and EUROPE than ANY! other

           machine including Super NES from Nintendo.  And the Sega

           Saturn will follow in its footsteps!  Also Sega have released

           a nice little add-on for the genesis of which you slagged

           again called the 32X.  Personally I thought this was great,

           Nintendo plan an upgrade for SNES but not for along time.

           And Sega make an upgrade and a new machine in one shot

           straight away, really nice.  The 32X is great for people who

           cant afford grey import machines or cant play them on there

           TV's etc.  At least Sega have given them the option of being

           able to play better looking and quite nice titles in the

           mean time.  No one is forcing anyone to buy the product, but

           its there if wanted, unlike Nintendo etc.



           Also instead of slagging Sega off, slag Nintendo off.  Nintendo

           have been mouthing off for ages now and shown nothing.  Only

           recently they released Killer Instinct in the arcades using

           the same technology they will release for the home.  Also

           by the time you will see this technology in Japan (1st) it will

           be around march 1996 now.  Also slag them off for releasing

           shitty products such as the Virtual Boy.  Instead of slagging

           Sega for their 32X which is useful.  The Virtua Boy is crap,

           it does contain a decent little chipset but what it does is

           useless crap and a gigantic waste of their money and soon the

           public.  Its screen is all displayed in RED, and the 3D is

           unconvincing, plus for more than 15minutes continuous use,

           prepare to grab a sick bag.  Is this good???  You may be lame

           enought to think so, but I dont.  So until you start to know

           something about the industry, whos in it, and whos doing what

           and also what they do, SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!"



   AT(P)  "SONIC WILL BE RELEASED FOR SATURN, SEGA LIKE RIPPING OFF"



   2Tuff  "Sonic is not planned whatsoever for the Sega Saturn, it was

           on a release schedule for the 32X not Saturn.  Also if it 

           was it would be absolutely awesome on the Saturn.  Anyway

           Sonic can't be that bad, else no one would have bought it

           or be hooked on it, like alot are.

      

           Sega may ask alot for titles and some products expensive,

           but Nintendo are far worst and until recently far stricter

           on censorship etc.  Also Nintendo will rip you all off when

           they release Ultra 64 with its cart's.  Notice how Nintendo

           are planning a CD-ROM add-on?  Ask yourselves why!  And 

           it becomes obvious, Nintendo plan to rip people off for a

           while with Cart games then bring out CD's.  Considering

           Nintendo said CD was a waste of space and crap, then why?

           Cause they know they are wrong, and why do Sega and Sony

           and 3DO think otherwise???  I'd rather take the word of

           3 companies than 1.  So that proves they won't to rip you off.

           So rag on Nintendo and others not just on Sega.

     

           Everyone went on about how Sony was going to have the

           cheapest hardware and software.  Well Sega Saturn stuff

           is not much difference, so WOW!!!!  This shows.



   AT(P)  "SEGA SUX"



   2Tuff  "So what arcade games were you playing years ago?  They

           must have been excellent NOT!!!!  The only good arcades

           at the time was Sega ones such as SPACE HARRIER, AFTER BURNER

           and OUT RUN!!!  What games in the arcades at the time were

           better??????? NONEEEEEE and what games are you playing now

           in the arcades???  Most likely Sega with still great games

           dominating the coin-op market.  Games like VIRTUA FIGHTER,

           VIRTUA FIGHTER II, BATTLE TANK, VIRTUA RACING, DAYTONA USA

           SEGA RALLY etc.  You may play some namco titles but we all

           know that Sega rule!"



   AT(P)  "2-TWAT HAS BOTH, THE RICH NO LIFE BASTARD"



   2Tuff  "Well obviously you are a jealous bastard.  There is nothing

           wrong with supporting a hobby.  I can find alot more sadder

           things to spend my money on such as train-spotting, collecting

           crap.  I think computers/consoles is a good place to spend

           all my hard-earned cash.  And personally i dont give a shit

           to what you loosars say.  When you can buy these machines, of

           which we all know you want, then your views may change."



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Thanx for reading -2TUFF '94



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                UPLOAD TIME & DATE : Sat Jan 14 10:28:38 1995

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