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[SOLVED] No-go on Mint 17 -- Install saved ISO?

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[SOLVED] No-go on Mint 17 -- Install saved ISO?

Postby bonez » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:35 pm

Refracta (still) won't install on Mint 17 due to the "live-config" ordeal. Is there any way around it or how to fix it until Refracta is updated?

**EDIT** Looking back at my previous posts, I saw that I had reported this already about 2 years ago. Is Refracta still not updated to deal with the "live-config" issue?



Also, can I install Linux to a hard drive from a saved Refracta ISO? If so, how would I go about doing that?


I'm a Linux noob, so keep that in mind when posting instructions.

Thank you. :)
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Re: No-go on Mint 17 -- Install to hard drive from saved ISO

Postby golinux » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:04 pm

bonez wrote:I saw that I had reported this already about 2 years ago.


bonez wrote:I'm a Linux noob, so keep that in mind when posting instructions.

That sounds like a contradiction . . .
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Re: No-go on Mint 17 -- Install to hard drive from saved ISO

Postby bonez » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:14 pm

golinux wrote:That sounds like a contradiction . . .


Not really as I only use Linux very briefly on occasion.
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Re: No-go on Mint 17 -- Install to hard drive from saved ISO

Postby fsmithred » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:42 pm

In the previous thread, from May 2014, ewald reported that the fix was to change the dependencies of live-config-sysvinit. Did you try that? Is it the same problem? (problem being that live-config-sysvinit depends on sysvinit, which now goes by a different name.)
refracta-installer-and-snapshot-used-on-other-distros-t111-40.html?sid=3ee306ded93805ef9080886c4c65968e#p4595

What's the output of the following command on Mint 17?
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apt-cache depends live-config-sysvinit


Refractasnapshot and refractainstaller have been updated many times in the last two years. They still require live-config-sysvinit or live-config-upstart or live-config-systemd. I don't think there's any way around that. And I don't have control over those packages to change their dependencies.

If what I've said here doesn't apply to your problem, then please explain your problem in more detail.

To install a refracta iso, make a bootable CD or usb with the iso, boot it, and run Refracta Installer from the apps menu or refractainstaller from a terminal.
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Re: No-go on Mint 17 -- Install to hard drive from saved ISO

Postby fsmithred » Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:31 pm

This is from a mint17 iso.

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[email protected] ~ $ sudo gdebi refractasnapshot-*9.2.2*.deb
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Building data structures... Done
Building data structures... Done
This package is uninstallable
Cannot install 'live-config'


[email protected] ~ $ sudo aptitude -s install live-config
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  live-config live-config-sysvinit{ab}
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  live-config-doc live-tools
0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 20.7 kB of archives. After unpacking 218 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
live-config-sysvinit : Depends: sysvinit (>= 2.86) which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

     Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)     live-config [Not Installed]                       
2)     live-config-sysvinit [Not Installed]               



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The problem is that mint has a package that depends on a package that doesn't exist. live-config-sysvinit depends on sysvinit, but sysvinit doesn't exist. I can think of two solutions.

1. ewald's fix: repackage the live-config-sysvinit package so it depends on sysvinit-utils instead of sysvinit.
2. See if there's a sysvinit package in the correct version of ubuntu and install that. CAVEAT: I don't know if it's possible or safe to do this. It may introduce other dependency problems.
3. File a bug report with live-config-sysvinit in mint (or maybe ubuntu if the problem exists there, too.)
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Re: No-go on Mint 17 -- Install to hard drive from saved ISO

Postby bonez » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:01 pm

fsmithred wrote:In the previous thread, from May 2014, ewald reported that the fix was to change the dependencies of live-config-sysvinit. Did you try that?


Thank you for your detailed responses. I don't know how I missed that post. Seems straightforward-enough for even someone like myself with limited Linux experience to be able to accomplish without too much hassle.

I'll mess around with it some more when I get a chance again, and mark this as "solved" unless I need any further assistance.

Again, thank you. :)
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Re: [SOLVED] No-go on Mint 17 -- Install saved ISO?

Postby dzz » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:33 am

Good the problem is solved in this case.

Posting here fom a snapshot-type live-session:

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# cat /proc/cmdline
BOOT_IMAGE=(loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live findiso=/home/dzz/devuan-bootstrap2/snapshot_current.iso nocomponents nomce apm=power-off vga=791 locales=en_GB.UTF-8 noprompt noeject basemountmode=rw,noatime,umask=000 debug=1 swap


Note "nocomponents" .. meaning no live-config scripts are used. A live image with a preconfigured user and a root password set (or user permitted to use sudo) can boot without live-config. No live-config means reduced functionality, e.g. the locale won't be set.

Therefore (unless there is something I missed) live-config could be "recommends" not dependency.
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Re: [SOLVED] No-go on Mint 17 -- Install saved ISO?

Postby bonez » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:44 am

dzz wrote:Good the problem is solved in this case.


I marked it as solved since I believe the repackaging described in the solution linked above will work in my case. But haven't actually tried it yet. Though, I don't anticipate any problems.

As far as the rest, someone else will have to chime in since I'm a Linux noob.
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Re: No-go on Mint 17 -- Install to hard drive from saved ISO

Postby bonez » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:09 am

fsmithred wrote:In the previous thread, from May 2014, ewald reported that the fix was to change the dependencies of live-config-sysvinit. Did you try that?


**UPDATE** Instructions worked perfectly. I was able to get Refracta installed and running on Mint 17.3. The instructions are a bit dated and a couple links are dead. So, when I get a free few minutes, I'll write up a new thread dedicated solely to ewald's instructions, only updated.

Thanks again for your input. Very much appreciated. :)
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Re: [SOLVED] No-go on Mint 17 -- Install saved ISO?

Postby golinux » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:12 am

Congrats!
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